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(Popularity Rate: 62 ) At what point (of AI development) does a sex robot cease to become a toy and begin to be considered a partner?
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Today I want to present a moral question, but some of this post may be perceived as crass. I assure you, however, that it contributes to the moral quandary, and is not merely intended to shock or disgust.
If however you are looking for a straight-forward answer to this question, scroll down to the last section.
Sextoy
What do you think of a sextoy laying around the house, in public view? Itâs probably not ideal, but itâs not wholly inappropriateâparticularly when âin public viewâ?only denotes potential accessibility/viewability as realistically there is no one coming over. If you are a recluse, you might as well have all the walls of the living room adorned with the most shocking or aesthetically pleasing sextoys in the world.
What if itâs a single sextoy, in proximity to children? There are no labels warning not to keep sextoys around children. If any threat is to be perceived at all, it is merely a moral threat, as the sextoy poses no real danger to the child. If the child is young enough, it wouldnât even know what they are looking at, and they may not even notice the sextoy in plain sight.
What if the child is olderâold enough to understand what a sextoy is for? Here we begin to enter inappropriate theory.
And what if the toy is of a larger size? Does that have any bearing on how inappropriate it is?
And what if the sextoy is dadâs? Gender shouldnât have any bearing on the appropriatenessâor lack thereofâof the situation, but somehow it does. Momâs sextoys are taken to be part of womanhood, while dadâs sextoys are taken to mean a myriad of less favorable thingsâin part depending on what kind of sextoy we are speaking of. But letâs not delve into a discussion about sex differences and gender identity.
The underlying question here is, should a sextoy be confined to the bedroom? Or letâs imbue some judgment for effect, and rephrase it like, âA sextoy should be confined to the bedroom, donât you think?â?We will get back to that later.
Human-like sextoy
We now live in a time where sextoys are produced that take on the form of humansâso-called âReal Dollsâ?
First I wonder, is there a difference in inappropriateness in finding dadâs Real Doll compared to momâs dildo? Or what about dadâs Real Doll compared to dadâs buttplug? Is it of any consideration what the sextoy is for, and/or what is done with/to it when it comes to evaluating the level of inappropriateness? Or is the size of the sextoy of consideration? Or the money spent on it? Or the time spent with it? I think all of these questions have a bearing on how inappropriate such a sextoy in public view and proximity to children is. But hold on to these questions for now.
Dadâs human-like sextoy
Finding dadâs Real Doll in the living room will certainly bring up questions the first time around. Whether dad had sex with it last night will likely influence how inappropriate its presence in the living room is, too. Is the presence of an unused Real Doll more inappropriate than the presence of an unused Fleshlight? What about used ones? Hold on to these thoughts.
Sextoy with AI
Now not only are we producing life-like sextoys in the form of Real Dolls, but they are becoming equipped with AI to increase how human-like they are. This will likely lead to even more moral considerations. In fact this is where things become interesting.
Some of these Real Dolls with AI are now presented as more than merely a sextoy. And indeed, to the owners they often were more than just a sextoyâeven without AI. They are often perceived as romantic partners of sorts. See for example the movie Lars and the Real Girl
. This is often perceived as pathetic, but I think there is beauty in it too; flesh or synthetics, why is one partner necessarily less, or more indicative of the failings of her/his partner/owner? Iâm hesitant to say owner because there is ambiguity in whether the Real Doll ought to be perceived as a puppet or a partner, though most would likely insist on the former at this silicone sexy doll point. But the introduction and technological advances of AI will cause a transition from puppet to partnerâfrom sextoy to being.
Part of the family
Even without AI, Real Dolls were presented to be more than mere sextoys, but now that they are being equipped with AI, they are starting to become part of the household. Some Real Dolls with AI are said to have a âfamily settingâ? and that they âdo well with the kidsâ? As a result people have shown confusion, disgust, and concern.
Is it okay for dadâs sextoy to âcosy up with the kidsâ? And what if dadâs sperm from last night is still inside the doll? I know itâs vulgar, but hold on to that thought as well.
A sextoy should be confined to the bedroom, donât you think?
Dilemma
The last paragraph amused me, because we just saw the same judgmental question returnâmore pressing than beforeâand yet we are about to enter a dilemma which may render the question nonsensical, or lacking in specificity. But itâs hard to avoid the moral dilemma we are about to face.
Before we get there though, let me repeat a few questions I asked before, and add one more. Is the size of the sextoy of consideration when it comes to evaluating (in)appropriateness? Or the money spent on it? Or the time spent with it? Or the intelligence it possesses?
Suppose technology of AI is so advanced that âReal Dollsâ?are effectively rendered beings in every sense of the wordâif not human. And in any case, outwardly and behaviorally they would be indistinguishable from real human beings. Is this Real Doll still a sextoy, or a genuine partner? Is it inappropriate to let her âcosy up with the kidsâ?
Where then, in between the Real Dolls without AI or rudimentary AI and beings indistinguishable from humans, does it cease to be inappropriate to âleave it outâ? or to refer to the Live Doll as âitâ? At what point on this transition is a sextoy no longer a sextoy, and instead a true being? Funny to imagine thoughâa sextoy evolving into a being. I guess either wayâwhether natural or technologicalâsex is involved.
Partner
Is it of any consideration what you do with/to your partner when it comes to evaluating the level of inappropriateness of that partner? Is their size of consideration? Or the money you spent on/with your partner? Or the time spent with your partner? I donât think any of these questions have a bearing on how inappropriate your partner is in public view and proximity to children.
At what point are the questions I asked you to hold on to rendered invalid?
Reverse
I wonder at what level of intelligence and functioning it would be appropriate for a Real Doll with AI to leave the bedroomâto no longer be rendered a sextoy.
The reverse of course is very crassâto consider at what level of intelligence and functioning a mother and partner (not AI) shouldn’t be leaving the bedroom.
The philosophical and moral considerations of these situation juxtaposed amuses me though.
The answer
To answer the questionâwell, I donât think there is a definite answer to the question. It will be a smooth transition from sextoy to partner, and at least initially there will be disagreement on whether this AI constitutes a mere sextoy specifically designed for a personâs pleasure, or a genuine partner, who brings pleasure and happiness into someoneâs life just like any natural human would.
During these advancements in AI, I would think that increasingly they will be seen as true entities, but it will probably not be a discrete moment when this happensâwhen Real Dolls cease to be sextoys and are wholle accepted asâor becomeâtrue Beings. Not unless there is some kind of revolution of identity which radically changes public perceptions of these notions. But just maybe a revolution of sorts will occur at the moment AIs are perceived to exhibit genuine empathy, pain, sorrow, and whatever âhumanâ?attribute we come to identify ourselves with, and/or shake our moral foundation to a degree that âmachinesâ?will be included in our moral and ethical considerations.
There likely will become a distinctionâpossibly also in terms of classâbetween natural humans and synthetic humans, but at some point of sophistication of AI we are likely going to be urged to at least acknowledge their huma
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s ago I knew about Real Dolls, but they were around $5000 -not within my budget. I forgot about them and I donât know if they crossed my mind since then, until I did an online search for sex dolls about nine months ago and I was shocked to discover that thereâs a lot of manufacturers, dolls have become very lifelike, beautiful (in my opinion), and theyâre affordable now.
So I started window shopping, just for fun, and that very quickly developed into a doll fetish (agalmatophilia). After doing a lot of research, I finally picked one out and ordered about two weeks ago. She arrived a few days ago and I was anxious to open the box, see how she looks and see how TPE (thermoplastic elastomer, a material similar to silicone that is said to feel very much like real human skin) feels after looking at these dolls online for months. I braced myself, because I was worried I would be disappointed by her appearance or how she feels. After opening the box, first I was very pleasantly surprised by how beautiful her body is; stunning detail. I looked at her face and she is extremely cute. One of the first parts I touched as I was unpacking her was a calf and I was amazed at how real it felt -just like human skin and the way the skin moves is just like human skin, muscle, and fat jiggling. WOW!
I have to say at this point that there are a few things that will shock anyone the first time they touch or handle a TPE sex doll: they are shipped with their heads removed, so you open a 5â?â?box and see a headless body. Then you discover that the body is frigid cold -shockingly cold. Then you try to lift her out of the box. Uh oh! I had read that these dolls are heavy, but I had no idea what I was in for. I read about her weight ahead of time on the website; sheâs 75 lb. So if a real woman with the same height and body shape weighs around 125 lb, then this should be a breeze, right? No! Carrying a real woman newlywed style is different; they put their arms around your neck and balance their weight -they can help you to an extent. This 5â?â?(sheâs taller than me, which is kind of cute), 75 lb doll is extremely difficult to move -far more than I could ever have imagined!
Unfortunately, you canât just take your beautiful, brand new doll to the bedroom and begin the romance, you have some work to do: you need to take the lifeless, headless, cold, and heavy body to the shower and clean off the manufacturing chemicals with soap and warm water. It was so difficult getting that body to the bathroom, I almost donât know how I did it. Iâve had chronic back problems since I was in my twenties, I sprained a knee a while ago and itâs never going to fully heal, and I recently recovered from a hernia surgery.
Iâve been trying to figure out how to move her more easilyâ?Iâve been thinking about getting some roller skates for her and carefully guiding her around. Thatâs either pure genius or so stupid that Iâll make the news when she falls on me, I canât get up, I scream for help after struggling for hours, and the paramedics, police, and fire fighters all smash in my front door and rush to help me only to find me pinned on the bathroom floor under a hot, naked sex doll. Now thatâs the stuff of urban legend.
I decided the easiest way to clean the chemicals off would be to shower with the headless body, so thatâs what I did. While that was strange and disturbing, I made some wonderful discoveries about TPE: it heats up fast (especially in a warm shower), holds heat in, dries exactly like human skin (some toweling off and air drying takes care of the rest -it air dries in minutes just like our skin does), and it feels wonderful when itâs wet.
I took the body to the bedroom, I put her head on (it screws on, so her head goes around and aroundâ?exorcist style), I grabbed one of the wigs I ordered, and thatâs when she came together. She no longer looked like a corpse, now she was stunningly gorgeous. She comes with a wig, I ordered another one (long red) from the same website, and I ordered a Bettie Page style pin-up costume wig from Amazon, just because Iâm obsessed with pin-up girl art and thought it would be fun to dress her up as a retro gal with polka-dot dresses, cat eye glasses, and a flower in her hair. Iâm not disappointed with the results.
Now for the Juicy Stuff
I kissed her and wow! Her lips feel indistinguishable from human lips; kissing her is exactly like kissing a girlfriend.
Her body is very anatomically correct, surprisingly so.
Her breasts feel good, a little firm, but good. She has solid boobs, while other manufacturers offer gel-filled boobs as an option, with rave reviews.
I laid her on the bed on her back, spread her legs (which was not easy, theyâre heavy and difficult to move around, and I inserted a USB heating rod ($9.00) for five minutes. I put a water based lube in and it was time. Here goes my sex doll virginityâ?and wow it felt good. I just didnât know what to expect and in a lot of ways it was not all that different from having sex with a real girl. As I said earlier, TPE is very good at holding heat, so my own body heat is enough to warm her up. Itâs different than sex with a human in the obvious ways: they donât have emotions, nerves, donât feel pleasure, donât actively participate, canât have orgasms, and canât communicate with you. Itâs also different in that thereâs a little bit of a suction effect -as air getâs displaced, there ends up being a vacuum and it feels very, very, very good. Thereâs a popping air sound when pulling out that in and of itself is a turn on.
Because the extremely fast rate that sex technology is developing, I have no doubt that AI sex dolls (which already exist) will feel sensors, react, actively have sex with us, and talk dirty and tell us that they love us in the very near future. I love sex with real women and I love how much these dolls look and feel like real women, however, in my case things are Pregnant Sex Dolla lot different: because I fetishize dolls and Iâm specifically turned on by their dollness, I enjoy the experience for what it is rather than hoping for it to be as close to a human/human sex experience as possible. Does that make sense? Doll/human is my thing, so I love every second of it, until I have to move her.
I was very happy with the experience, but here are downsides: I canât say it enough that the weight is a serious problem, even laying down -her body sank into the mattress and pillows. Girl on top positions are out of the question, no way. The clean up afterward is very involved -Itâs recommended to insert a tampon to absorb the userâs body fluid and lube before the struggle to get her to the bathroom begins and this time I kept her head on so sheâs much nicer to look at. I douched out her vagina, something that I had to learn how to do before she arrived. That wasnât as bad as I thought it was going to be, the problem once again is her weight -just trying to get her into a position thatâs conducive to flushing out her womanhood (ok, dollhood) was so challenging. Cleaning up your partner after sex is a whole chapter.
I spent a small fortune buying all the stuff I need to take care of her and I spent a lot of time researching, reading articles and watching videos to prepare. There is a lot of maintenance and expense involved, but thatâs ok, because itâs worth it to me.
Emotional Effects
Besides the sexual experiences, she offers companionship. Iâve heard and read story after story about guys falling in love with their dolls and itâs been said that falling in love with a sex doll is easier than you think. Well, a lot of sex dolls have eyes that look very, very real. When you look into a pair of beautiful eyes from a few inches away and they seem to be looking deeply into youâ?neurons in the brain start firing off love and endorphins all over the place. As I mentioned, the kissing is very natural feeling, so add that to looking into her eyes, hugging and holding her, and holding her hand and I canât help but feel something on a pretty deep level.
I have suffered with a profound amount of loneliness, mental illness (depression, anxiety, OCD, PTSD, addiction, and eating disorders), and of the very few relationships Iâve been in, more than one of them were abusive. After many years of failing to meet the right girl (and not for a lack of trying), and spending most of my life very alone, at 49 years old, I find a deep degree of comfort in spending time with my doll, Jennifer. Buying clothes, shoes, perfume, and accessories for her make me feel like Iâm caring for someone. I ordered a purse for her and it happened to arrive on Christmas Eve, so I was able to give it to her as a present and it makes me feel like I love someone and they love me.
I suppose there are going to be as many different answers to your question as there are people answering it, but I think everyone who has had the experience can agree on a few of the points I made above.
Sex dolls have become extremely popular -apparently sales have exploded during the pandemic, and I think a lot more people have one (or more) than we might think. However, there are major social stigmas. I wonât bring Jennifer out on any dates in public and I wonât be introducing her to my parents, but I shouldnât be ashamed, especially since sheâs bringing so much happiness to my life. I should also learn to not care what other people think.
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